Students Share#1: RWTH Aachen M.Sc. Automotive Engineering

Students Share#1: RWTH Aachen M.Sc. Automotive Engineering


hi guys I asked you to post all the questions you have for the iwth Arkham automotive on the YouTube community page and we have some questions actually it’s really difficult to find somebody who has already studied the whole course and who is willing to share the time with us thank you so much movies for being with us right now yeah that’s just really a great opportunity that you could take the time out and you can just share all your experiences with us it’s a pleasure buddy you are doing a fantastic job you are providing the students much-needed information which is not available at all times it’s a very great platform you are helping students a lot and it’s very kind of the first person I met in the anywhere city honestly I mean you were the first person I know in my bachelor’s so I guess that’s just crazy that we’re both starting in thanks a lot let’s start with the questions whatever the students put up and in the end like whatever experience you have to care from your side whatever things you learnt in arc and what students should do what they shouldn’t do anything just feel free to tell first of all let’s ask wait what was your profile when you were applying like your great score I came in 2015 I applied for winter semester 2015 I did my bachelor’s in mechanical engineering from D curseth with a CGP of somewhat near about a point by yeah then my gate score was so I scored 78 months out of 400 in gate mechanical engineering 2015 and I displayed in some events like Baja supply and oh if he’s like doing my bachelor’s and that was like ole which I had when I apply for this university I didn’t have any experience in the German language was German language do you have to apply with uni assist or do you have to apply directly oh you can apply dari you can just go to the University website you can just type MSE automotive engineering up in in Google search you will find a page and the at the bottom of page you will find the application portal link so it’s a total from our wbh view which is common for all the courses okay you just need to go there register yourself in doe then you’ll have options within which course you want to apply for okay I know if you have any country specific or any specific requirements the application portal will tell you which all documents and which are the requirements for this particular course so everything happens online or to jihad really happen here everything happens online then you just need to eight printouts of your documents you will need to gather a transcript of your records from University and those just pick them and send it to University before 1st of March that’s the deadline for in students ok every student who is not on European cities okay so no one European citizens their deadline is 1st of March and I think you also have to get those documents attested because they were photocopies right actually I don’t think so I don’t think so you need to get the mr. because most of them are just originals so if you have degree certificate you should include a photocopy transcript I send off for you from the University I know statement of purpose should be like you can’t send a photobook if statement of purpose and all the documents are like originals most of okay but that’s like something that you have to do anyways right yeah but wait I mean you also had a really really good gauge ranking I mean everybody in the university was just talking about you and the great thing happens what was your rank at that time so my rank was all hundred holy I didn’t know about it honestly I think this is this is really good rank why did you decide to come to Aachen and like not the question should be why did you decided to appear for get examination okay yeah please so I appeared for gate examination just to get admit inaudible yeah that’s crazy that’s that’s insane so we’re you like really so motivated about can what made our can your first choice or why don’t you just want to go in that place so the first reason was the Q’s rankings so if your search for at contains the full mechanical engineering you will find that earthen dominoes as I guess 18th in mechanical engineering so I know I searched for other universes that you build in some somewhere there was some language require restrictions and sometimes there were some other restrictions like to offer an examination GRE examination which I didn’t have time so this was only University where I can apply without any prior knowledge of German okay and the second university which I shortlisted was engine you know stuff Applied Sciences but I dropped it later because it’s a university it’s applied science you know as to you it’s not a technical unit so that was the reason why I dropped it and though that was the reason why I just apply for order creation now with that we come to the second question Abhijit more of us is it more like a shoulder or a tu in terms of flexibility the term technical Schuler is very confusing for me when we talk about path walk sure it’s nothing but the University of Applied Sciences and the course is basically designed to prepare you for the food industry so if you get admitted any university of applying science like hopefully if each other you know step applied applied senses ashley engine those who prepare you for the industry and their courses me majorly focus on industrial applications by this technician for sure is technical and this is also known as Technical University okay yeah so Technical University like our WTHR can hear you don’t get any experience which you can directly apply to industry but you study all the subjects all the theories in classes you can apply all the theories learned annual process to do basic research and research basically it’s a research oriented design of coop so this is the basic difference between so Hawk should park actual their course at Bass joining it you know as industrial oriented take technical analysis and technician hope to do their course I designed for this research oriented okay so it’s like like technician walks ruler because when we read like it feels like all right they’re also saying hopefully they’re also saying technician but like it’s like a Technical University yeah it is a Technical University one more thing what I wanted to discuss because what I’ve gained like what experience I’ve gained in my group is that if you are doing your masters from a shooter it’s considered to be a second-grade masters like it doesn’t have the same value or the same respect like yeah as I already told you those courses are designed for industrial application so I in terms of salaries or in terms of job opportunities so I don’t think there is a much considerable difference between these university I think if you are starting in Germany in any of the university you have the same chances as ever even the difference is when you want to plan to go for a PhD and you did your bachelor’s or study masters from actual then you need to take certain subjects from technique technical diversities so that you have to cover certain five or six subjects or maybe that depends on the field in which you are interested for a PhD you have to appear for certain examinations I’m not sure about this aspect but this is like you have to take some courses then you have to pawn them and then you can apply for a museum you can then you can do a PhD and do you think that this is something that the students already have to decide during their masters because I don’t think like after they are done with their masters that they can take some five or six courses in some university to apply for this thing this thing is like German is very flexible in terms of Education okay there is no age restrictions and you can find a lot of people who age 30 in my class so it’s so it’s like if you are if you if you did your back cook sugar and then you are working with those someone there you can go for industrial internship and they obey if like I know some people who are working at our WTH in institute they are working as a mentor biker like as permanent employees they just to take some extra courses in panel and then they arrested them for a few that’s a nice thing to know if that we come to the next question akshay victor asks hi Bharath which has like hi actually which has more job opportunities mechanical or automotive engineering in germany i think he is talking particularly about coming automotive engineering and i think if you if you are studying anything in your money if you are doing it well if you want to do something job opportunities are more on the same if you study masters in mechanical engineering you can also work in automotive engineering you can work in many other segments of mechanical engineering we have a course called come in it’s mechanical engineering so I know many people in the same institute as a student assistant so so the steam and water like the major differences between your course and came because you know students are also asking to get an interview with somebody from came maybe you can hook us up sometime but like you can also like already explain some differences if you know it’s a mezzo computer-aided mechanical engineering so it has the some segments like CAE computer-aided engineering fbm there are numerical methods they study numerical methods it studied Java and so there are certain CFD so these are like some segments which they studied during the examination and like multi body dynamics so all the subjects which are they which they study during their force I know in automotive engine started like vehicle dynamics electric drives and storage system internal combustion engine and not so vehicle dynamics is so it might be possible like vehicle dynamics is there’s a mixture of dynamics and multiple so we use multi rotor dynamics but we are not aware of my multiple body dynamic systems in much depth they study multi body dynamics they don’t study suspension systems the suspension system I know we don’t study so it’s more or less thing what we study in other words I think that the course is different this cope of my course is different okay but it’s like the students who were studying came they can also like come after their masters masters towards automotive engineering I I know most of the people from game they are working yeah that was something I wanted to say too because you know Germany is a country where the unemployment rate is just low so that means like if you are studying anything and if you’re good at it like you can have good chances to find a job a proper job it’s not that difficult with that I wanted to come to the next question I’ve been Matthew asks which all subjects did you cover in automotive engineering and is there any specialization fuels in it I think like all the subjects they can go to the module handbook right like they can just say I just type MS the automotive or go to Iike website Institute for automotive engineering or wh website I know he’ll find all the details about all the subjects which we studied during two years or so but like just to shortly talk only about the specializations like are there some specializations or is it just automotive engineering in automotive engineering we have different courses like one as driver resistant system then we have internal combustion engines we have alternative propulsion systems and electric drives and storage systems and dynamics of machine these are some composite modules which have which we have to do and the specialization is like if you are both if you as you study all the aspects of automotive engineering during the force so the scope of course is very wide and it’s up to you in which field you want to do a specialization like you can just if you are interested in a particular field of automotive engineering you can just apply for that evey job Hebe job I think you have cleared all these terms before in your previous videos so you can just search for a job in the particular department then you can build your profile and then you can do internship in the same department and after internship you can do a thesis on this in the same department so you will get a spatial practical knowledge about the particular field through your part-time job then in terms and then thesis and you learn theories in classes so – it is like it’s the scope of this course is very wide it covers almost every aspect of automotive engineering whether it’s structural whether it’s whether it’s now assistance that there is whether it’s anything that sounds really interesting honestly I mean students have so much choice afterwards but like they have to take the efforts and they have to like do more in those subjects also what is the study like how much time do you have to spend studying or learning and how much time do you have to spend in practical things so I think hundred percent of our course is just TV yeah usually we don’t have any lab sessions so I there is one cool which you can take as elective that is automotive liberal tree or automotive tactical it’s like it’s this course is just four six credits and it takes two semesters to complete this course so usually people avoid it you can drive a BMW if you’re taking that course so this is like practical and apart from this subject we don’t have anything that is practical in our subject okay we sometimes have some special laboratory sessions organised by some people who will just tell you some basic software’s or basic tools which are used for the particular subject but as such then this course is completely theoretical not no practical nothing that man asks recently the iwth Aachen University remove the statement asking gate is mandatory for international automobile engineering course and put a new guideline asking non EU students to give GRE score but again it is mentioned as the optional in the next paragraph section five and something will they consider application with gate score for fall 2018 or not after reading this question on your community field I go to this iike website and check what is the admission criteria for 2050 and I think it’s not clear until yet because though it’s already made this number and the application period should start from mid-december also get a minority for Indus student that was the line which was there on their website for the past three or four years but now they removed it and they added this GRE is required for known EU students but they also wrote in brackets that this decision is still in consideration and the final decision will be taken during the mid December also so the final decision you have to just go to and they also write it to you will get to know about this through the online application portal so I’ll suggest everyone just to go just make a count on the application portal if you are interested in applying you know that’s the most secure way to get information what are the admission preview sites and what are the admission requirement because they D quite frequently and they don’t update their websites often just make a account and trying a plan but would you suggest is it smart if students don’t take the gate but take the GRE because with the GRE maybe they can apply to more universities because like as far as I understand gate is just for our wth Aachen and Munich like some courses in Munich and some courses in laughing yeah because these courses are highly competitive and they received a numerous number of applications from India so just you have a screening criteria for Indian students they adopted this gate examination I think they should wait and oh people who are willing to apply for next year they were already preparing for me and I it’s just 34 25 is live for the gate examination I would suggest do will prepare will I try to achieve an as much as you can and if they ask or gate you have advantage if they don’t it’s just like matter of 20 or 30 days and I don’t think a student should take chance by not preparing for gate and because even if you have a good profile and you don’t qualify great and you’re and they ask you then your chances of Admissions are very less I would suggest by the time they don’t get in under they don’t get any confirmation from the University at gate is not mandatory or gate is not required they should not stop preparing for gate okay that’s a nice advice I also think I mean if the university has left you in such a gray area then I don’t think if you have written gate and you just have gate that they will just reject you by saying that okay you wrote gate and you didn’t wrote GRE because you know Germany is more flexible in that sense they were Stallion to highlight one point that happened or when I applied for this and the time of application I didn’t have this TOEFL score so I just applied and that you need to submit your TOEFL score card at the time of enrollment so it might be possible if they can just go for the criteria that you should have this much of score in your GRE and by the time of admission you should submit your tier is called by this deep like gate examination they asked for your results till July 15 or so okay so it might be possible they will give you some buffer time to give GRE and to submit your official job response so it’s all depend on that University how they are going to deal with it and how they are going to announce for the gym and it might be possible they will not ask you enjoy every school but for now like just go forward with the great score yeah I think until you you have a confirmation that okay gate is not any more required for our W gate you should not stop preparing now rishabh Rana asks I am in the final year of mechanical engineering I have been looking for the same course since long time I wanted to pursue this course can you please tell us what would be the pointer needed a skate compulsory how is life in Aachen and what are the job opportunities during and after completion of degrees so let’s take it one by one like what kind of pointers did you see I guess the minimum requirement is 2.5 according to German C GPA scale I know yeah a point of about eight point five eight or above eight is good and if you have a bitter point or you have better chances and like we already talked about if nation yeah and now how is life in up and I’m also really interested in soon life in happiness booting that’s not what you want to hear for sure can you please that situated on the border of Netherlands and Belgium it’s the place with the most unpredictable weather it can rain now it can snow now you know so Kingdom so it’s like it’s the most unpredictable place in terms of weather you will find all the time it’s raining here you will find a lot of rains in Aachen and oh yeah and the best thing about happen is you can travel to complete the harvest and if you are if you are studying in an RV so you can go to Cologne you can go to do so look if your party if you enjoy party then you can just go to balloon on weekends it’s fee and it just takes 60 minutes life in oven initially there is a lot of struggle to find out combination now when you came from India first time I know you don’t find a place to stay it’s quite boring because you just for I remember for first two months I was just wandering here India from one appointment to another appointment for a house yeah life in Aachen and then you have university like in university this as this automotive engineering is completed international course you will not find any German student in your class and you will find mostly international students so because all students are from outside Germany so you get up very good bonding with them the university life is very good you just have five or six lectures or five or six exercise classes during the complete week so it’s like on an average you have just two four or five hours of class or day and then aachen is a very nice say pick you live it’s the small city it’s not it’s not linked very big city but you can travel to big cities for C and if happen is a very people like but the only thing which I don’t think about nothing is it’s better I think I have the same thing to complain about homework to I I hate some word because I mean we don’t have unpredictable weather it just rains it just I hate it so much and it’s it’s better initially when you come from India especially from the north northern part when it’s hot all the time and here you come in okay it’s it’s cooler it’s nice but then it just starts going on you know especially I mean there is like missing something definitely especially in winters right now I mean I hate it I leave home you know it’s dark I come home it’s dark it’s just sunrises maybe at 9:00 it goes down at 4:00 or something and then I got like what would you say about like how is your interaction with the professors I mean I think because the students are too much so I don’t think professors really get to know you that well but like what what is your take on that so I think for this the professor’s here are really friendly and they they are much interested in listening you if you have an idea you can just go to professor you can take a Fineman and you can go and meet them then there are many assistant professors who generally took exercise classes you can just go to them and ask doubts even after if the even after the lecture or even after the exercise then they will be there to help you and even if you write an email on if you write any question on the forum on we have an internal system that is called l2p and we usually have all our lectures and all our exercise m do so there is a community where we can discuss the problems and if you write something that you will get a reply from the professor or his assistant professor they try to interact as much as they can the lectures are very helpful and oh yeah the study experience is completely amazing they some some some lectures are just awesome can you also tell us what kind of assessment takes place in the university during the semester like like okay we have these assignments and all that but also like it would really help if you can tell us what kind of MCM we’re in the semester and exams like anything that you have to tell about this so the biggest plus point about this article teach opinion was it is you don’t have any internet assessment throughout the semester just single examination at the end of the semester okay like because no because we have sessions in the assignment you make any assignment in most of the courses you would just have single exam at the end of the semester and yeah those exams are quite tough and you need to study a lot for them okay we have lecture scripts written by the professor itself and then we have presentations lecture presentations and the next Assizes and/or the questions and solutions so problems and solutions so and previous examinations like we usually solve five or six years of previous examination for every exists sub course so this is generally how accessibility is okay do you have more MCQs one more one line questions more essays what kind of exam so generally we have most of the examination is we have numerical problems so we have subsections we have a problem that is of twenty mass we have subsections that is three maths formats and we have something every question is just – marbeth remark of one liner answers like oh okay where you just need to write so your for Botswana Sundance also here you don’t need to explain theories you don’t need to explain theorems you don’t need to explain any working principle of anything which we generally didn’t yeah so mostly the examinations are numerical they have lot of numerical problems and some certain questions one-niners thing in certain examinations if professor has the the urbanized oral examination I need thirteen examinations they have some MC use okay and I’m sick user mode tough here because they are multiple choice and multi multiple answer I think I feel the same I just had my midterm like into you it’s different like four into you for seven engineering it was exactly the same like an automotive engineering but in tu Hamburg when I am doing this international management engineering every week we have a presentation every week we have like a midterm or some yeah I mean it’s again it’s just management side so it’s completely different than for engineering subjects so I had this midterm which was quantitative methods so what they did was the whole midterm was pretty big and you had a lot of text so you have to figure out what information you need to use from that also they will give you all the formulas I mean generally it happens if there is something like that they give you a formula sheet or something so that you can just use it but I feel like yeah the time stress is also real in the exams in university they also make it something like you know one point is equal to one members here yeah so the time source is real if you can attempt to complete entire examination in that means you’re super quick or you terrible mistake but this is the only way they assist you if you are studying automatic mean I like I also heard like assessment is different from the coast of course and not from coast to coast on faculty to faculty the Faculty of Informatics and mathematics they have different two criterias so but in mechanical engineering or in the speculative mechanical engineering all the examinations are off more on the sea I feel like you do when you’re giving exams in Germany I feel like the same way that you would give an exam for entropy or something I mean you have to be real quick there too and maybe you have to do less a calculation or something but I mean yet but that is also doing a lot of time pressure I think it’s examination here is more challenging in a triplet in terms of time management because in a Ripley you can you can skip as many steps as you want but at mine was do you gone you have to every step okay well okay now we know something that is really important to know for everybody who wants to just study in action now we have the second last question what is the difference between our WTH Arkin and iwth Arkin International University iwth Arkin is the name of the universe in our wh International Academy so it’s so it’s a part of university that off for some time into private courses to the students from outside Europe in Union so the courses that are offered by iwth directly like a machine automotive engineering miss the electrical power engineering or electrical power systems those courses are generally free those are public courses and you don’t have to pay anything just you have to pay a contribution social contribution that is approximately equal to 50 euros per semester and you get a semester ticket for that semester tickets ticket you can travel in the entire state of an RV for three this course is offered by International Academy our deputation International Academy they are usually paid courses they are private courses that is offered primarily by iwth University I know there you need to pay fee of a thousand or something in the food it depends on the course which you are going to study okay first semester along with this social condition okay now with that we have the last question and afterwards I have some questions to which I’m like really interested in million Akane asks after the deadlines when does the university reply back about admission or rejection so this is a very funny question because I think when you’re over stick-on month of this yeah I mean it’s really different from University actually it’s not different like when I apply when I applied in I have tried in February 2015 18 and semester was supposed to start and 5th of October and I got my admission on 3rd of September what’s the kind of song that strain you’re tired next year they ruled out admission quite fast on July 15 so it’s like generally you can if you can accept a call from the University in the mid June and July in the late June and mid tonight but even if you don’t get admission letter like admit or rejection in August or September it’s absolutely fine it can happen because it happened in my case I got my admission on 2nd of September I don’t know if you remember something about bank loans or something can you also tell something about the bank loan and the slock accounting so I so I’m not aware of a loan process and you know these are process I think they vary every year so there might be some slight differences changes now from my time but I opened up my the bank in India okay so then I opened up account I deposited near about 6 or 6.5 6.5 lakh rupees in it and then they issued me a certificate which I showed to the embassy that okay I have this block B comes with quarter-mile in their bank they have a special special type of account for this for the students who are willing to study in Germany so they’ll give you a letter later that you have open a blocked account with them and then you need to submit that letter for in the German Embassy in India to get a visa extension once you come to Germany you can open a bank account at any local bank here and then you need to write an email or you need to ask your bank back in India to send your money to transfer your money from India to German man okay so this is generally how this process hamton now you have a bank account in Germany which you have to get blocked or you have to block it so that you want to be grow more than a fixed amount of money per month and then you need to just submit the letter from this bank to visa extension office okay so like you take this letter from the bank in Germany to the Auslan dismay hotel or like yes ooh we have this residence permit office in our university we have a special office for students that’s very practical yeah actually actually you know and you will find like I guess in our wth there are more than 15,000 students and at FH Aachen you there are 15 or 17,000 students so it’s more difficult for sure I mean to you hem work like so I think it’s really small it’s maybe six thousand students or something it’s really time even the campus is like you can go from one end of the campus to the other end in maybe maximum 10 to 15 minutes and that’s it it’s over it’s like really small but I can like fifty thousand or a lot of students in our can you will find or like I’m staying at the place that is just to one kilometer from the needle and you can find a you know is you can find the University of hospitals and all the Institute’s here and you can find them five or six kilometers in the city and you will find iwth campuses anywhere you so it’s very beginning no more it I’m really curious about this thing what made you decide that you want to go to Germany and not to United States or not to Australia but to Germany and to our cool so the first reason is I wanted to do my masters in automotive engineering so if you search for universities in the United States or in Australia or somewhere else you will hardly find the three or four University of Germany that offers a master’s degree in automotive engineering they usually do they usually offer a degree in mechanical engineering okay so the first reason was this iwth cotton offers automotive engineering the second reason is the reasons by applying for a TT just it’s ranking in mechanical engineering is very high if you compare it with the counterparts in us like there are some universities in us apart from Michigan University Michigan State University the every immersed in us has very poor ranking as compared to this University and the third thing is the German automobiles are like well known through the world I know we know like Germans are best in mechanical engineering in automotive engineering specially and you will find every big company you Jewish company you will find office are you so Center in Germany so these were some reasons I applied for Germany not for us and the one reason is like the high difference in tuition fees yeah I mean sixty thousand dollars in US and in Germany most of the courses are like almost for free yeah you you just need to spend like you just need to spend 8,000 or 9,000 years or so for your living expenses I mean you have gone through the whole client you came here as a aspiring student you’ve got to know about all these new things you have been through a lot of course I mean for sure we don’t know about it but it must have been that way what experiences would you like to share with the students who will be going through your same footsteps so I I doing are diluted immediately after completing my bachelor’s so I don’t have any experience in India so though this is a very challenging task if you are in Germany and if you are applying for a huge job even for a student assistant they asked you for some they asked for some experience so you need to have certain kinds of experience so it’s really difficult to find a TV job here because there are 60,000 students and you will find a lot of students who are studying here in automotive engineering or in mechanical engineering so it’s really difficult to find student assistants here which is one of the major challenge we have faced so for this I would really well in some sigh MIT professor frequently met their assistants and frequently that okay this subject I’m really interested in the subject I scored really well in the subject back then my prior experience in this area through participation in various competition which hidden in there like Baja and Supra and all so I convinced them to give me an internship first they give me an I got and then I got a heavy job and now I do my another internship I’ll start on another another which in which you will face here is German language though I WH you are can see is you don’t need to have any tile knowledge of German at the time of admission and you can do a German course here at the University but I would recommend all these students were willing to come to Germany special to either British university because every University of art from this is they ask what we’ve eleven of German even for international courses so you don’t need any language requirement so here you face difficulties because most of the time the TV jobs through drilled assistants are in German and even you need to apply in German because the companies they look for someone who can speak at least conversational German so they can converse with their teammates and they don’t feel or one out in the group meetings or in groups so you should definitely have German language which was a negative point in my case I’m still yeah then you need to be very much sure that you want to do it because it’s highly theoretical goods and you will come across new prints equations in one day so you you should love mathematics if you want to join this course and you should be cricket you can calculate don’t students generally ask is it bad if I take more than four semesters I mean I know nobody in Germany completes their masters in four semesters and it’s completely fine nobody tells them that you took five or six semesters you will not get a job or something now so what would you say yeah you are talking to someone who is in here special semester in still star and is going to start an internship for another five months and then I will write my thesis for six months so I finished I will probably finish in six and a half semesters my course so it’s completely okay if you take more time so I’ll tell you one thing we come from India so the core structure the education there is completely different from Germany and here we need to understand this basic point that if you are studying Germany nothing is a time bomb you are not supposed to finish everything in the army my course is basically of just three semesters I got five four three courses which was supposed to be a part of my bachelor study but I studied mechanical engineering so some courses of automotive engineering in my bachelor’s so because of that reason I need to take obligatory courses that my course duration from three semester to one semester and then I I don’t have any experience as I already told you sighs I was trying to find the internship I applied for an internship and finding internship in Germany finding an internship in Germany is really tough task you need to be patient because sometimes it takes a long period of time to get an internship to get a good internship so I waited for approximately five six months to get this internship in those five six months I I did student assistants in the main time like the student assistants again with a good knowledge because I came across a number of research papers which I started to get my tasks done I used to MATLAB and other tools which helped me to date this internship I prefer from a beginner to intermediate profile so next is internship and then a thesis and then my profile will be like okay I have two years on this particular topic or so it’s completely okay if you take no time then four semesters the only thing is if is this if you constraint yourself that I want to finish it in four semesters you will not get any experience because you even know you will not have time for the student position because you have lot of subjects during your semester you will not do internship people that you start your thesis so I would recommend it’s normal it’s personal perspectives and it’s quite normal if you finish in more the semester I’m thinking about the same thing because I studied civil engineering and now I’m changing to international management engineering and if I just go through my course and I don’t do anything different then it will be very hard for me to just offer a new company something that I have something they would want from me so I think definitely it makes more sense to just go for some internships and just build your practical experience before just leaving Master than just jumping into cold water because then you’re just with everybody else who is trying to search for a job there but wait how does it work with the visa extension or residence permit if you take longer than Moyet how does this whole visa extension works and the residence permit even when you take longer than four semesters when you come first time in Germany you have a visa for six months now then you need to apply for a visa extension on a residence permit card within those six months and you will generally get a residence permit for two or 2.5 years like I got it for 2.5 years I know as long as your purpose of Steve that till studies still they’re still valid like as long as you are a student you you don’t have any problem in getting a visa extension you just need to show points for the prolonged period of stay in Germany a student you just need to show them that ok I have this pie 7,000 of 8,000 euros in my bank account I am doing this internship and they are paying me this amount and then ok you just need to show and then you need to give them your student envisioning that study certificate I know you get extension easily it’s not a problem you just need to go and apply and it’s just a 5 minute class and like officer was after you done with your studies I guess there’s a extension for looking for jobs for 8 engines or something right so it’s called as job search we can do after the completion of your study you can still stay up to 18 months in Germany to find a job and then afterwards like they were also asking something about permanent residency I think it was after five I dunno I don’t have any experience or I do information about I mean that’s nice so that as long as you’re a student and you are studying you have something to show you can like still extend your visa yeah you can extend your visa I know many people who exchanged a visa for four years or five years for just trying thank you so much for taking out this time for us because I know it’s really really difficult to find somebody who is willing to do something like this if you have time someday we can also have a live session you can take question of different students yeah just let me know whatever your plan would be and let’s do that yeah thank you very much it’s a very nice task which you are doing helping students and providing them information much-needed information I can see which you which one absent before you but you’re not have been available before you so yeah life session we can also we can do a live session also we can find I should you we can fix appointment and then we can do Alexis thank you so much for your time and enjoy the evening thanks for yeah thanks for all this information I got looking bye bye bye bye


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